I typically do sights myself, but the XDM front sight is an extreme poa, due to the slide contour. I had S&W try to do that to me once. Its flat face helps to keep consistent trigger finger placement when needing quick follow-up shots. I use to have a few before the boating accident. Having a light mounted on your handgun can come in handy in many different scenarios. The XD-M 10mm www.thearmorylife.com Jan 6, 2022 #6 However, I can't stand a grip safety. Maybe it wasnt SA's fault, but I am pizzed that they want to charge full price to fix it. I had them add FO sights to my 4.5 XDm, and its by far my favorite gun to shoot. Ergonomics * * * * * In fact, it beats the feel of the Glock grip hands down. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Give Springfield another chance here's a quick way you can contact them. (By the way, I found your post when I was googling for this gun at site:reddit.com to see if there had been any more recent reviews. Those sights. Also offered in 10mm is the XD-M Elite compact with a 3.8-inch barrel. I field stripped and checked everythings out. I dont see much here that amounts to an advantage over my 5 XD9 version 1.0 except maybe 3 more rounds of capacity. MSRP $609 - $837. Like I said, accurate, but not as accurate as Id expected. Simply lock the slide back, swing the disassembly lever ninety degrees, and slowly release the slide. For the rest of us, its a grippy affair, nuff said. I have other more accurate pistols and some that have better features. WebXDM Elite 10mm 3.8" FAILURE! I find many times I wind up going back to the old trusty TLR-1 HL, but Ive also been hearing some positive feedback on the SureFire X300. I recently had the opportunity to put a brand new Springfield XD(m) 5.25" 10mm through its paces. Compact yet powerful, the pistol packs in 11+1 rounds of the powerful 10mm and features fully ambidextrous controls, the excellent META trigger and much more. I bought a Springfield XDm in .45 from LGS about 9 weeks ago. Wolff told me the 4.5 spring at 22# is good. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. I've never heard of this type of issue. The least they could do is do it for 1/2 price, hell they wouldnt lose any money at that. Color: Black. Good to know. I pulled it out and I realized it was the spring that keeps tension on the indicator. It is much more civilized than the Rock in as much as the recoil is not as sharp and it doesn't launch brass into low earth orbit. Height: 5.75. If someone noticed something different, let me know. This resulted in some pretty nasty gouges in the X-Ray chassis and some minor scratches in the polymer frame and a scratch or two in the slide. From a value perspective, it will be hard to beat the XD-M Elite 4.5 10mm. #7. When squeezing the trigger, it becomes increasingly easier to fire off follow up shots. The slide is forged carbon steel with a Melonite finish, which is tough stuff. Not sure what the difference is between that and the 45/10 as they look the same. I've been hoping for years to see an M&P 10mm hit the market, so I will definitely be grabbing one of those. It shoots great. help sites earn revenue by advertising and sending traffic to Inside the soft pistol case is where youll find the handgun itself and a magazine. The M&P M2.0 is one of my personal favorites. It shoots great. Theyre small and my fingers are short, so its quite a challenge to find a comfortable fit. Barrel Length: 4.5". With this being my only 10mm firearm currently, I dont necessarily stockpile the corresponding ammo. WebBroken XDM Elite 10mm 3.8" UPDATE: They said it's good to go. Im pretty much staying with Glocks, Smith, and Sig pistols simply for magazine compatibility reasons. Is It? The Hex Dragonfly that comes with the XD-M Elite is a nice optic, but there are many other quality optics to consider as well. One of the last loads worked up in its short barrel was a 220 cast (closer to 230) Honest 1150 fps. Where did you get the 22lb spring? Take your rucks off, lads. I could check this weekend when I have some time. Springfield Armory XD-M 10mm Discontinued Jump to Latest Follow Products in this Thread Discover products that SIG Talk members are discussing products that are mentioned will automatically appear here. Too long 1911 extractors are a bear to fix for a kitchen table, amateur 'smith. When using the rear sights, it feels really good when you reset for another shot. If you have achieved operator status, sleep well at night on the pointy end of the spear knowing that you can still get a firm grip on your gun with your hands covered in blood, mud, and grease. I also have small hands, but am a lefty and release it with my index finger for fast mag changes. But I did change to special barrel ($150) to handle the heavy bear loads of Buffalo Bore 220gr slug. With the small backstrap, these are perfect. Its a dream to shoot as all that weight and size absorbs what little recoil 9mm puts out. This is especially handy for one handed racking of the slide on tables, belts, shoes, or whatever you find closest. Where the Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 3.8-inch Compact OSP 10mm Failed This XD-M has good iron sights, but with an optic, theyre useless, even as quick backups. I put Talon Pro grip tape and Ameriglo night sights on my 4.5; just a preference of mine. But I did change to special barrel ($150) to handle the heavy bear loads of Buffalo Bore 220gr slug. Color: Black. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. I reduced and reshaped the claw "A" and got it touching or nearly touching at "C" depending on the brass manufacturer. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. Have 1000+ rounds through mine, not a single issue. Also offered in 10mm is the XD-M Elite compact with a 3.8-inch barrel. It could use a set of suppressor-height sights Overall * * * * Here's a brief unboxing: Came in cardboard, not the nice "pelican" as its found typically; think that's an IOP thing. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. I've put rounds through a Rock Island 1911 10mm so this was a chance to do a compare and contrast. Started by Graybeard. Once you go CZ, you wont go back. M&Ps are probably next on the list. After purchasing the pistol it didnt take long to realize that I had made the best choice. While that test is cool. This isnt to say that the XD (M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. Sounds like you got one with a quality issue for real. You can read all about it here, but this is the first pistol that has not agreed with my high handed support grip. It will never shoot as accurate as my Sig P-220 but not many pistols will. The magazines are chromed and slide home easily and freely. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Optic cut, suppressor sights, 4.5" slide with a 5.3" threaded barrel. 10mm In September of 2021, Springfield Armory released the XD-M Elite in 10mm, which featured a 3.8 barrel. I too have a Springfield XDM 4.5 - 10mm. He had several videos gushing about how it shot everything he put through it (as opposed to the M&P 10mm that had multiple failures with all kinds of ammo). Ultimately, the rifle was worse for the wear. The striker status indicator and loaded chamber indicator will let you know if there is a round in the chamber and the gun is ready to fire, while the grip safety will stop you from being able to fire until you have squeezed the grip properly. The XD (m) is not immune to abuse though as I found by carrying a Remington 700 in an X-Ray chassis next to it for the duration of the Bushnell Brawl. 9 MM 10 MM .45 ACP. Thats my only complaint. WebFeaturing a superbly refined trigger, the XD-M Elite represents the pinnacle of performance in modern striker-fired pistols. The article I linked to explains it in much more detail. Either is a great choice in 10mm. Caliber: 10mm. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. It takes some getting used to at first. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. Its frame is black polymer with three interchangeable backstraps. The grip angle on the Glock was wrong for me, the M&Ps had bad triggers (in my opinion), and the 92F carried its weight in such a way that I had trouble keeping the front sight on target (actually felt too light). A sturdy belt and a stiff holster are almost mandatory, but I managed to appendix carry this every day for several weeks using a DARA IWBand a stiff belt. Even shooting the admittedly snappy .40S&W, fast, accurate follow up shots were a breeze. After about 50 rounds of hornady critical defense (factory ammo) I had an odd round that made my whole hand sting. With fifteen rounds in the magazine, one in the chamber, and fifteen more on each reload, the XD-M in 10mm is going to be handy when trouble arrives. Each XD(M) barrel is hand-fitted to each individual pistol, so the parts fit flawlessly and work smoothly to produce fast, accurate shots each time you fire. I'm curious, did your xdms take a bit for the barrel and slide to wear in and seat? I knew something wasnt right. If youre looking for a new pistol, I suggest you check the XD-M Elite out for yourself and see how fun shooting 10mm can be. The XD-M Elite 10mm I tested came packaged with Springfields Hex Dragonfly optic. Started by Graybeard. The reliability thing is a mixed bag. The optic has to be manually turned on, but does have a 16-hour auto-off feature. I love this gun and the xd. However, I can't stand a grip safety. The XD(M) Competition Series comes with three ten-round mags (.45 ACP) or three nineteen-round mags (9mm), depending on which variation you prefer. I have said it in other posts but thought I would make a whole thread to tell everyone. It also does not like the white box. and I have M&Ps, Glocks, XDMs, FNX, etc. The 3.5-MOA red dot Dragonfly is the larger of Springfields two red dot optics and is perfectly proportioned for full-size handguns. Hold each, see which feels better, lines up better in your hand. I didnt see anything wrong with the pistol and reassembled. FEATURES. I know many departments and agencies are approving the XD platform for personal carry- Springfield hasnt done the aggressive pricing cuts like Glock and SW have done so its only rarely the official issued duty weapon. However that may play out, I trust that we will both continue to enjoy our classic carries. The low-profile, reduced-glare rear sight and the fiber-optic front sight allow for fast and accurate target acquisition and the 5.25-inch barrel provides an increased and more accurate sight picture. Especially if you like 1911. The only issue Ive heard of in xdm is the top roll pin breaking when you dry fire. 28,272. Thanks for replying. You could have been dealing with some sort of hand strain before you went and mildly damaged something, if you are already suffering from tendonitis it's not hard to do. Did a full slide disassembly and found that the striker needed to be replaced (after replacing the broken striker retainer pin) and so I've got one in the mail. The Springfield Armory XD(M) Competition Series of handguns has been getting a lot of attention lately, and for good reason. I have no doubt that in the same ransom rest, this thing would continue to stack bullets one atop the other. Here is the before pic. The XD-M Elite does come ready to shoot out of the box, but that doesnt mean you cant snag some accessories too. However, I can't stand a grip safety. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm: Hands-On Review [2023]. Mine came with the small backstrap, and it fits my hand nicely. Trust me, if you had touching the stop, your knuckle wouldve been all bloody by now. This new XD (m) is an eye opener. Believe it has something to do with OAL (too long/out of spec), but never cared quite enough to figure out the why of it as I have seen too many overall issues with WWB to consider it a pistol issue. As you can clearly see in the picture, the XD(m) is coated in a liberal amount of stipling and grip serrations on both the frame and the slide. The XDM 10mm is out today, in both 4.5 and 5.25-inch slide configurations. Gun Made participates in the Amazon Services LLC The Dragonflys housing is made from 6061-T6 Hardcoat anodized aluminum and comes with anti-glare lenses and simple #1. I had the emblem fall off my one DE within the first fifty rounds. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. For carry I got the compact, but its hard to go wrong with this model as a range or bedside gun. FEATURES. Is It? I didn't have much luck with my G20.4 In fact, it beats the feel of the Glock grip hands down. Springfield Armorys customer service representatives can answer your questions/concerns Monday through Friday 8:30 to 4:30 CST via phone at 1-800-680-6866, International: +1-309-944-5631 or email at sales@springfield-armory.com. I also own a Beretta Cheetah that holds 13+1, fits my hand extremely well and conceals in an IWB Bianchi holster perfectly for me. I pulled it out and I realized it was the spring that keeps tension on the indicator. I just wanted to see if the 10mm xdm elites compacts have been having issues or if I got a complete dud. However my factory Glock barrel (still have it) cycles fine the Underwood 200gr slug bear load. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. It could use a set of suppressor-height sights They replaced the trigger. JavaScript is disabled. Did a full slide disassembly and found that the striker needed to be replaced (after replacing the broken striker retainer pin) and so I've got one in the mail. We aren't fussy. Its like gun Christmas. As far as I can tell, there are no problems with failure to feed, failure to eject, or misfire. NO ISSUES. The accuracy was so disheartening that I truly thought there might be something with me. To go along with the match grade barrel, Springfield also adds their META (Match Enhanced Trigger Assembly) trigger to improve accuracy potential further. Due to the way I had the rifle slung, my pistol and my rifle spent all Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It handles great and the lightweight slide makes the gun feel balanced. But I did change to special barrel ($150) to handle the heavy bear loads of Buffalo Bore 220gr slug. I thought maybe the XD(m) trigger would be better but I dont think so. Most folks only change it once, so it isnt the end of the world to use a punch and a hammer to make the swap. So, while I havent put as many rounds through it as I would if it was say, a 9mm or .22LR, Ive still managed to put 260 flawless rounds through it in the last few months. Great info in this thread! 4 Replies 457 Views September 27 2022 12:41:12 PM MDT by Kenk: 1911 10mm mag question. I used to have similar issues with support hands and slide locks. The 3.5-MOA red dot Dragonfly is the larger of Springfields two red dot optics and is perfectly proportioned for full-size handguns. As far as accuracy is concerned, the large frame and 4.5 barrel definitely help with recoil management, which translates over to the accuracy. The MSRP for the base model XD-M Elite 10mm retails at $653 while the Hex Dragonfly Red Dot equipped version (the precise model being reviewed here today) punches in at $837. I have the Glock-20, love it. My XD(m) is a .40 and thats where the weight becomes a beneficial aspect of the pistol. And thanks to the well-positioned mag release, the 10mm loads quickly and efficiently. Its reliable. The only issue I had was with the dragon fly red dot. I was told it should ship out Monday, so we will see. Even as an admitted M&P addict, I cant imagine shooting any of them without an Apex trigger kit installed. The stock rear sight has a very stylish rearward slant that looks great but renders it fairly useless for any of the aforementioned activities. I have the 4.5 in .40 and the 5.25 in 9mm with the 4.5 with the drop in and the really light one (extreme?) Same size, but a little thinner on the grip, more like a 1911. and they are cheaper than Glocks! A 4 lb trigger (roughly same as a single-action Sig P226) makes this gun an excellent and accurate shooter. As a sidenote, the video above does a good job of showing how practically accurate the XD(m) is. Whether you are looking for a home defense weapon or need a new competition piece, definitely try out the XD(M). She's Down We finally broke it. Both carry well in the Desantis Pocket/Tuck holster model, so I have one set up for pocket carry and a second set up for IWB carry. I have a lot of waistline to hide stuff in/on. I was having problems with mounts fitting on their rail and the stock not holding up. This is great news to those of you who like to change out your recoil springs. The rotational inertia is what makes the slide stop to engage. The XD(M) handles like a dream. FEATURES. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. You must log in or register to reply here. JavaScript is disabled. It isnt the lightest and most comfortable thing to carry, but like I said, theres a certain calm that comes with carrying twenty rounds with you every day. If you opt for the model that comes with the Hex Dragonfly optic, it will also be nestled inside of the pistol case. I just checked the Wolff site and they don't show anything for 10mm. Man, i can just hammer away with that thing. Spend the same amount of cash on your XDM, to include one of the above-mentioned trigger jobs, after market sights, and/or a mini-RDS dovetail and sight, and youd have a comparable gun. I love mine. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Not a fan of the XD's, they just don't fit my hand well and I honestly have a mental negativity toward them because I had a FFL in the 90's when the design came out of Croatia. I just like the trigger much better (DA/SA, hammer fired), low bore axis, accuracy, no grip safety and the first pull being DA gives me the confidence to carry it and re-holster with one in the chamber, without pause. The controls are very easy to get to, and the ambi mag release is a definite plus. Good enough for me; I doubt I'll be feeding it a steady diet of 200s at 1200FPS. WebThe new XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact OSP 10mm combines potent power with cutting-edge performance and provides concealed carry users with an outstanding defensive pistol option. "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport.". As unfortunate as it is, you'll probably be fine when Springfield gets you the replacement. If this model was having issues I'm sure someone here would chime in. And the 5.25 is incredibly accurate. is the next acquisition. I'm not going to dive into the pistol as I want Springfield to do the digging. 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