Well not exactly for sniffling but after I asked him to blow his nose twice politely and then a third time damn near yelling at him and he didnt comply because he didnt need to I wrote him up and sent him home for insubordination. I think the OP has already gone above and beyond, but it wouldnt be a bad idea to dot the remaining is and cross the remaining ts (air fresheners at home, in public restrooms, or in the car, dryer sheets, etc. I just could not handle it. He's had been a cocaine user. And please mind that just because the smell isnt actually THERE doesnt mean that for the coworker its not completely there. I wanted to give the coworker the benefit of the doubt at first. Well, rose and lime and the mens Eau des Baux are good, their neroli scent is like death. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Note that the issue is addressed in a business by in this case, the sniffer's manager, to the sniffer. She still cant stand to smell it. However the company could send an office-wide email advising folks be aware of strong scents causing issues. I had to go see the ombudsman and talk to HR, but nothing helped. I am scent sensitive, and some scents/smells do trigger headaches, sneezing, running nose, nausea, and/or migraines. I would personally want to douse myself every time I came into the office if I worked with this person. I think the your fist, my nose boundary ends with how close you have to be to smell it and/or normal use. They might even do it when it's inconvenient for themselves. She needs to figure out a way to disperse the smell at work (with a fan? I think we can all agree that the best outcome would be for OP to shave her head, live in a sterilization chamber, and wear a new sterile smock every day. My hair styling product sort of smells like pineapple, and Ive noticed that once it dries you cant smell it but if I get rained on suddenly, pineapple. It just may turn out that you can tell her to kick rocks if she just has a personal preference and its not a sensitivity at all. Perhaps she does as well and is associating them with you? Theyre advertising is hilarious but humans have been emitting bathroom smells since well forever. Either way, what your coworker is doing is not cool, and you have standing to talk to your manager if it continues. I also have sniffles all the time. Make a joke about you. And I was laughed at. I wish this was more helpful to the OP. I agree with you, and I think that so many of the suggestions here were way over the top. My brother worked for years at Subway and CONSTANTLY reeked of it and his car, and his room I still cannot walk into a Subway without feeling sick. Im 35 years old. I dont know what shes smelling, but Ive done everything I can reasonably do to accommodate her needs. ;). At this point, the issue is that she has a coworker whos being rude and snarky to her, not that she should just stop using bubble bath on weekends or so forth. Reactions like these to normal everyday stimuli, and those of Firebolt below, are extreme. The more you use it, the more you want it, but the less effective it is, Dr. Reisman says. I will stop wearing perfume for a coworkers benefit; I am not going to change my detergent, stop using my preferred soap, stop using lotion, stop using scented candles/incense/whatever around my own home or replace my furniture or clothing. HR will work on an accommodation & there will be a doctors note provided that actually talks about the fragrance sensitivity. Id be pretty miffed if I had to stop using things in my personal life. It would suck for OP if it is her entire wardrobe and she just cant smell it. Also, people may have to use specific strongly smelling products because of their own medical needs. We got fried chicken and rode the train home together . Could you bring in some Frebreeze and see if that helps? Morning all. Yep, I worked at a Panda Express for a few months almost 10 years ago. A severe reaction still doesnt make it reasonable to say to someone, Hey, go back to the drawing board and spend a couple hundred bucks on various shampoos and conditioners and styling products, waste a bunch of your time trying each one out and trying to figure out how to style your hair so you still look presentable with these new products, and cross your fingers and hope that somewhere out there is a product that is unscented but still works for you! Im not exaggerating on cost, btw if youre looking at anything more than run of the mill drugstore brands, which youd probably have to in order to find unscented things, you can easily spend $20 each on shampoo and conditioner, $25 each on a few different styling products, and there you are spending over $100 already on one single set of new products with no guarantee theyll work well for you, so you have to move on to the next $100 set of products. Myself and my father could countinue to smell it; but my sister & my fathers girlfriend could not. I had an ex call it my spooky foo tarot card shop smell. My mom taught me this trick. I stopped wearing it to work when you asked me to. or just Nope, not me. and then either ignore the co-worker or go on talking about the TPS reports or whatever. However, the color protecting haircare products I use have a smell, and Id be salty about discontinuing them because my color would fade a lot faster without them. ? "It was like ripping a plaster off.Could you tackle the sniffing in a similar way? take a deep breath (through your mouth): The cause of chronic sniffling is This person took a fan ad pointed it st me daily. it also helps with static electricity AND acts as a fabric softener and is much cheaper than store bought fabric softener. For about a week, it was great! Theres no way that none of them have even one Powder Fresh or Ocean Breeze or Fresh Cotton or Freesia Delight product in their lives. Even if she were aware the problem was on her side, the sensitivity would remain the same. I dont wear it often (I find it soothing and will sometimes put a little on in the evening, just on my wrist and just for me). (I did draw the line when someone started spraying their AquaNet on their hair at their desk, though..). All the time. Advice for HR professionals on handling body odor, bad breath, flatulence, head lice and other problems in the workplace. I once did a volunteer gig in a bingo hall this was before tobacco regulations were tightened in public locations and afterwards I could smell the smoke until I washed my sneakers, my purse (fabric, luckily), and my coat and scarf. Is she hassling the other people in your office? Maybe a (different) co-worker, in case the smell is lingering around the OPs work station as mentioned below. Finding affordable products that actually work for my skin and hair is extremely extremely difficult. Yes, I think this is a big difference too. Like the cheese thing, this blows most peoples minds. . Allergies. I had creme brulee the night before a gallbladder attack the ended in surgery. Best of luck OP and as an aside, I LOVE patchouli. If she says the smell is on your scarf, but you have a new scarf, then Id get a second opinion. I worked with someone at OldJob who LOVED Avon products, nearly all of which set off symptoms. Honestly, youve done all you can and more. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You could even put a few around the office so it looks like it was an office admin that did it. True, but even the boss shouldnt be expected to get dressed in the garage. I recommend using those products only with direction from your doctor., Nasal obstruction. I doubt many people would exaggeratedly sniff their coworker and say ugh, Chanel No. The main issue I have with this response is that its putting the onus on the LW to handle the issue, and thats just not fair. very invasive advice). I do agree your coworker is being rude. Asking them not to apply perfume before work, is one thing, to alter their personal life by buying two sets of products or not lighting scented candles in the bedroom or not cooking with curry or garlic or whatever. Im in the group that hates the smell of patchouli. I think this is an important point too. If they were prevented from being able to smell, many many of them had reactions to the smell when they thought it was there and it wasnt and did not react when it was there but they didnt know. It's a tell-tale sign that your coworker wants a relationship outside of work. Ah, I see you already made my point about how other people might have conflicting allergies. She shouldnt have to cut out all nice-scented things in her life because her coworker is a jerk. And if that doesnt work, go to HR. 2. I like the idea to get a blunt friend to do the sniff test, but basically I think the ideas about limiting physical contact are the best way to go at this point; Im a little afraid of sending the OP down a rabbit hole of onerous scent minimization that may not solve the problem. We cannot lock ourselves in a room and stay there because we have to work, get groceries, and do all the things the rest of us have to do. Dodging issues, acting oblivious or playing dumb, changing the subject to distract away from the issue, canceling meetings, and avoiding people. Unfortunately, I have a colleague with whom I work quite closely who wears a perfume/scent that Ive become quite sensitive to. They had everyone take their shoes off and the participation of women increased dramatically. So one day I stopped accommodating completely. It literally smells so strongly it reaches the entire office. I also think that the OP should go to HR and let them know what has been going on. Agreed. Requesting a coworker to not wear perfume or oils to work is reasonable. Please cut it out.). Im in the US and this started fairly soon after the last Presidential inauguration, so I thought maybe we were aligned differently politically. But so what. Don't let on that you don't want to help, or you think she's stupid, since that's not helpful. Maybe if I just put the lotion in my nose. Hubby always got compliments from both people who knew what it was and those who didnt. However, completely overhauling my beauty product inventory to find something thats scent free AND works for me (so that I dont show up to work in my naturally oily, sweaty, smelly state) would be a huge burden. And I feel you pain. I knew I hadnt worn it in ages but upon closer inspection we were able to confirm the smell was coming from my leather jacket. On a sidewalk, on a windy day. Hell, it annoyed me. I can tell my sniffing gets REALLY bad when I am upset or frustrated, and then it is moderate at other times, almost like a habit. At this point I feel like it would be a bad idea to wear *any* perfume around her, patchouli or no. However, genuine allergic reactions arent necessarily going to manifest in front of their sourceits not all doubling over in the moment. I let them know how exasperating the condition is, so they understand both that its not personal against them and that its serious stuff. Stressful couple of days. If coworker needs an accommodation they need to ask for it, and they cannot be permitted to continue to be snarky about it and rude. I only tried it in my hair once years ago, though. At this point you have done plenty to make her life easier, and she is being rude. Pretty certain the vent was the culprit as once we moved to a different area she didn't emit nearly as much noise. Let me tell you, African women, French women and certain Asian women wear perfume when they are out in public. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. I cannot imagine going to work everyday without perfume on. Also, I cant deal with the smell of Febreeze. Agreed. I smell :(. Not liking or hating a scent is not a good enough reason to ask someone to make huge routine changes at home. A friend of mine had always had the sniffles. The coworker seems to expect a level of accommodation that you should really only expect from someone youre cohabiting with. I would make sure your boss is aware of all the changes youve made and then refer Jane to HR every time she says something. I have spoken to my manager who has spoken to my coworker several times but . Agree. The other day, I was waiting for the elevator and he hurried over, asked me to hold the elevator so he could leave too. Ah well. If you have a fabric covered chair for instance, the fabric might have absorbed some patchouli prior to this incident. Honestly, next time she snarks about patchouli, Id literally laugh in her face, like Seriously? We still see each other fairly regularly Because Kids and its extremely jarring that he looks the same but smells wrong. If you feel as though you're about to burp, get up from your desk and walk to the washroom or even an empty part of the office. everyone think it is and I try to stop but its every minuet I sniff. This type of preview may stop the interrupter before he or she starts. You are kind co-worker. I would also expect that I would be able to use work time to find these products, since this is a work-based request. If you have a colleague who burps or sniffs excessively, the easiest approach is to tell her you find it offensive or unsanitary and, in the case of loud burping, do not consider it humorous. But it really, truly is an instant, intense fight-or-flight feeling and knowing its irrational doesnt make that kind of heart-pounding, blinding adrenaline go away. I wont eat it because when I worked at Golden Corral in college, way before they became a buffet, we used curly kale leaves to decorate the salad bar (they were sturdier than lettuce). Nasal sprays. Interestingly, Im really sensitive to patchouli. I totally agree I know the OP is trying to do her best, and is frustrated about where this could be coming from. Several of the ingredients they use are irritants to lungs and eyes, several others are known allergens, and some of them are linked to neurotoxicity. Your coworker could merely be bothered, in which case its up to them to get over it. In what universe is poop + really strong, cheap perfume the preferable smell? Im worried that there might be an underlying medical issue. And then walk away. There were some pretty extreme suggestions about changes that OP could make to try and address it there too my favorite was keeping your clothes in dry-cleaning bags and dressing in the garage! That was me! Wow! That would make sense with the patchouli reference. (As an irrelevant aside, one time I actually WAS right and I DID smell pee because the little expletive deleted peed INTO A FAN so there wasnt any visible mess, just a magical pee smell blower. Both me and the coworker are white, thank goodness. In those cases, if I have to eat around those people, I spend a LOT of time getting up to use the bathroom, flitting around the room to tidy/wash dishes, and otherwise avoiding and noise-covering as covertly as possible until it ends.). Yep. OP do you have a coat, shoes or bag that might be holding onto the smell? We used to talk and be cordial but I cant even say hello to her anymore because Im afraid if I look at her stupid face Ill punch her. Vaguely mentioning allergies does not communicate the issue that someone has brought to you as her supervisor: that her constant sniffing is distracting her coworkers. Instead they want to continue chatting or working. But youre not alone and I for one believe youre probably not the problem. Should we go talk to (manager) or HR together and resolve this once and for all?. *grin*. I get mean vibes from her too. Now, I know that others who are sensitive cannot deal with it because of worse effects, but that doesnt look like what is happening here. I got wicked food poisoning from Italian wedding soup with kale. Most wearers would recognize such disgust like the OP did and stop wearing it but I can see others loving it so much that they would not give it up. the people who are secretly working multiple full-time jobs from home, future manager is a bigoted jerk, boss hasnt paid me back, and more, weekend open thread February 18-19, 2023. Huh. I was thinking that too. I agree. Yeah, youre not alone in wondering this. Granted you should tone it down at work, but I and everyone else is allowed to smell like the body wash or shampoo or hand lotion of their choosing. Amazing. Psychosomatic reactions to various triggers, including scents, are pretty well documented. Enlarged turbinates, structures in the nose that clean and humidify the air you breathe handy when theyre working well, not so much when they take up too much nasal real estate. I can tell you, its really hard for me not to come across as rude. Like wearing perfume on days off that lingers even after bathing before coming back to work, or burning incense in ones own home, or storing clothes laundered in scent-free products in the same dresser or closet with clothes that havent been laundered that way, or having an air freshener in ones own car. My coworker walks in after 8:00 a.m. every single day. I finally had to write up one worker who insisted on spraying perfume in the office. Say nothing. OK, you are unlikely to see this, but I *love* chicken. Lots of open space and cubicles and the offices are reserved for leadership. My best advice is to follow Alisons script and see if being told nicely that youve done what you can, and that she needs to quit bullying you. What if coworker says the only acceptable product is $100/bottle? This is a good point and may seem to odd if someone has never experienced it, but I definitely have had this reaction. Yes. Another coworker can have an anaphylactic reaction to some scents. Thank you! If your general practitioner cant get to the bottom of it, an ENT or allergist should be your next stop. Its pretty frustrating to scroll through. I'll be studying in one room with the door shut and can still hear him sniffling in the other room. I switched to unscented laundry stuff, shampoo, body wash and antiperspirant but the complaints continued. And that is what this is. Your coworker may just be associating you with whatever smell she didnt like before. He is constantly sniffing.not just a little sniff but a really big sniff that you can hear in the back of his throat. And its usually not like I can just switch from the scented version to the unscented one the one Im using is the only thing there is! . For a while I was attending a conference that made that request. Sorry, I scented was an autocorrectI wrote unscented. I have to agree . It just struck me how familiar some of this sounded and wanted to offer another possibility. My bosses and I came up with some unique ways to handle my problem until I finally got a remote job for the same company. I think you could explore the suggestions of others above about fragrance in unlikely places like a coat or jacket, or on your chair. My friend worked a really hellish retail job one Christmas. I even bought new clothes. She may be grossed out for real, but the fragrance allegedly emanating from the LW isnt actually emanating, theres nothing they can do about it, and the coworker needs to lay off. For a while I just wore grapefruit scented essential oil on my wrists and neck instead of perfume, but it would fade away so fast I eventually just stopped. We confronted him a couple more times but the last time she said something to this person, the response was. OK, thats fine and I can handle that. I had wondered that as well. You can address bad office behavior by telling people when their actions are not OK with you. Agree. Is the problem with ME personally or something that I am wearing or carrying? Let her sniff your jacket or your bag for example. AlsoI used (briefly, because I am sensitive to Aluminium) a non-scented deodorant (Toms I think) and after 5 daysit had a smell and that smell was on me. OP How long have you and this co-worker worked together? It was actually a specific experiment testing chemotherapy-related food aversions. Therefore, I only bring it up to people if I cant avoid the person and just deal with it because I feel that I shouldnt dictate how others live their own lives. I know he hangs his clothes out to dry, but hes a super cost cutter when it comes to his home, so thats possibly the issue. Its unreasonable of me to ask a coworker to adjust her perfume when shes not at work.). Humidifier helped me, enormously with my constant sniffling!!! Peachie, you gave it away a little when you said your mother eats with her mouth open. Its bullying. I also had a situation similar to this i never wore perfume and switched to unscented everything to accommodate a coworker who kept complaining that I smelled. Just make sure you keep on top of it. Sometimes I get a whiff of white vinegar (we used it in the water under the hot trays) or that orange chicken sauce smell and feel grossed out. They Don't Like You I have had reactions to certain smells, even one flavor of herbal tea, that makes me sneeze and sneeze. One, about patchouli just dont. BUT youve gone above and beyond. They feel so over-the-top as to be completely unreasonable to ask of a coworker. Ill take your share of cheese, please! It looks like you just have someone who just doesnt like your scent. This feels to me very much like the OP is being singled out. Oh well then.if she just doesnt like it, thats just too bad. I think that Picky Coworker is one of those types who will demand more and more concessions from LW until she has LW thoroughly buffaloed and walking on eggshells. I remember being at a conference and requesting that the organizers make some sort of announcement asking people not to spray perfume in the conference areas. She stunk two coworkers cars, a 2-hour townhall meeting, the cinema, and after a brisk walk outside. Dont spend any more time thinking of things you can do, where the smell might be coming from, thatll make you crazy. Thats my thought. I meant no offense and should have not used the word disgust. I dont think she does, but I think she does genuinely believe that the OP is still wearing perfume. Dont even turn your head. But not all allergies are as obvious as hay fever. Flash forward another month later, she accused me of wearing perfume. The other coworker who was complained about took an internal transfer. I keep forgetting I probably need to try it for all those foreclosed houses I enter that simply reek of animal waste. If it is just a personal preference to what she is smelling you do not need to be so accommodating. Im saying this as someone with almost no sense of smell, so my word is worth nothing, but I really really bet thats whats going on. She even went to my manager, who pulled me aside and asked me about things like deodorant and bath products. update: how can I turn down training requests from my clients? Wow. Im one of the rare 20-somethings that doesnt take laundry to my parents house to do, because their washer smells funky and the funk seems to come off on my clothes a little. Our nine-year-old son has trouble remembering to chew with his mouth closed. you said exactly what I tried to say, but much more eloquently. Its possible the smell is lingering somewhere else or has another cause (from your handbag, or its actually the smell of your car air freshener, or something other than the original perfume). :(, Why is Alison mentioning lemon scented body wash? :). 5 again? If things don't improve, tell your boss that things haven't improved. I still loved bourbon but I could not drink Jack for 20 years. Otherwise, theres a whole other layer of gross here. At this point, the coworker really needs to be talking with her boss or HR to figure something out. Unfortunately, it made my office mate sneeze, and similarly to your coworker, he was sensitive to it. Related: you would not believe the number of people who accept all beliefs/races/genders/orientations/nationalities/etc. Dont even know if it was the pecan pie, but havent been able to eat it since (19 years on!). I add vinegar to thrift store clothes to get ride of the scented detergents most of them wash things in. 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