Maybe they could help you out with shipping it back without the long drive. The chamber on the 320's is horribly unsupported and a questionable design in my opinion. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. But I am pretty confident they will not be of much support with using steel cased ammo, but it never hurts to ask. Yes (7) Inspected the extractor? The latest of these suits was filed last week in US District Court in Massachusetts. I was tempted to buy one at one time but no more. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. That being the case, the 320 is a cocked and locked striker-fired gun; However, it only has two safeties, unlike, say, a 1911, which has four: An inertial firing pin, a positive firing-pin locking safety, a manual sear-locking/blocking safety, and a trigger-bar-blocking grip safety. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! By But as Officer Hilton says, There is no way anything could have gotten into my purseinto the trigger guard and pulled that trigger., This ABC report includes an interview with Joshua Harrison, a firearms expert hired by the network to examine the P320s design and give his opinion of its safety. Right. LOL! https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-iN4Wr8P_P2lGU6m2M5Rd8F6tVxyeeWdzleA_0eUoKjB0wER5wbVU_ouLj3uKCvLmUWhjIv2uHVC2R0Wv8Q9VgQ/messages/@.id==AMxkWSMoHX4bYSzMKA0AINojDH4/content/parts/@.id==2/refresh?appid=YMailNorrinLaunch&ymreqid=ae6c4f7d-acdd-ffa3-1c80-d70000011c00. He points to it in the video. In 1974 if you bought a Colt 1911, you left the gun store and then immediately took it to your favorite gunsmith and said Make it work it with Super-Vels, please. You cant get away with that today. The fact that Shatner was doing Wrath of Kahn meet and greets at 90 years old kind of soured me. A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ZZ6pynGLM The list is long proving gun manufactures were well aware of this problem now for 121 years yet they abandoned this when the Glock infested the gun market. But 2 hour drive to the Fedex hub. Theyre the only product that is not. Sig makes a damn fine weapon and theres nothing wrong with it. Not only is it now the designated sidearm of all branches of the U.S. military, there are over a million of them in civilian hands. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I've been using 120 bayou .358 dia. Depending on who you talk to you will get many different answers. Give today. In that case lighten the recoil spring or bumping up the power should make a difference. In this video review, Iraqveteran8888 reviews the P365 . His haste to avoid the embarrassment of his gun being seen on the floor turned the incident from a wardrobe malfunction (accidental exposure of a concealed weapon, probably just a reprimand from the OPR) into a negligent discharge (the gun being fired led to him personally getting fired!). The clearest memory I have about the many people experiencing post-upgrade discharges is a cop who set his P320 on a table, and several seconds after letting go, IT DISCHARGED ON ITS OWN! Fundamentally, the bits that the ambulance chaser claims are flawed function exactly the same way as a S&W M&P. . Slowly people are realizing they arent the only ones having issues. All those customers who paid $1600 now had a limited function paper weight. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Whether or not the suits have merit. You can post now and register later. It has an unsafe takedown procedure that requires you to pull the trigger to get the slide off. is the manual safety a kit you add? Trigger is lighter than the Glock, it took years of aggressive training to reach the point of acceptable discharges with the Glock. Please Wait. never got into the P320 It is to me a Range gun not a carry gun. Posted: 12/6/2016 11:11:53 PM EST. During a confrontation with a suspect, Parkss department-issued P320 allegedly fired while his hands werent on the weapon, resulting in a bullet wound to Maritato. All polymer guns are cheap, cheap, cheap to make, thats why I threw the Taurus name into the mix. Sigs are crap! Then theres the fact that the branches of the military have put the P320 design through their own batteries of testing and found it duty worthy. Sig P320 Extractor Problems, www.SigForum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/150601935/m/7630095024?r=7630095024#7630095024. Maybe you got one by the same people. Thanks for reading. Thats fine. Dang, I thought my 320 was the only one that swaged a belt on 9mm cases! There wasn't really a straight problem, with most problems having different circumstances/potentially different causes. To make the striker leg pull off of the sear, you would have to impart a lot of rearward momentum and stop it suddenly. "how long will it take to get my gun back?". Cops are crap with guns, unlike me, a REAL pistolero! I will discuss the solutions to all these problems and user reviews in this article. Thinking its okay to wrap a loaded gun in a towel and toss it into a gym bag is what we get when departments refuse to hire candidates who score too high on IQ tests. After all, there are limits on complying with Rule 2 and even Rule 3, because a gun muzzle is ALWAYS covering something, somewhere, and ALWAYS knowing what lies beyondperhaps FAR beyonda possible target is an impossibility. I dont know nothing about Sigs, I do know any gunm that goes off when I lay it on a table gets sold with a warning and I never touch that brand or model again. Update: 6/30/16 Ordered a new Caliber X-change kit 9F about 4 weeks ago and have been using the new kit for the last 4 matches. Having it as the ONLY trigger pull the weapon has seems (to me) clearly dangerous. Customer Service can be reached at (603)610-3000 Option 1, from Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. EST. Any gun, ANY GUN, that goes off as many times as the Sig P320 has and has been documented without a trigger being pulled is FAR FAR FAR from being a great gun. Hey, Im sitting here staring at my P320, waiting for it to go bang! ! only reveals ones immature emotional attachment to an inanimate object, which reveals a pretty childish worldview. Right. Everyone remembers the problems the Beretta M9 had, but it got sorted and they went on to serve over 30 years. Sig Sauer Extractor Pin for New P224,P226,P229. These lawsuits arent about Sig making a defective weapon, theyre about lawyers building a nationwide consensus in civil trial that makes it easier (and more lucrative) to soak gunmakers. I bought a P320 and went through the voluntary upgrade. The P320s and P365s were junk, plain and simple. How close is your load to getting into the rifling? Your previous content has been restored. That seemed to help for a while. So far I have only heard of one instance (post fix) where there was an ND and the post mortem on the gun demonstrating a mechanical failure. Has anyone else had issues? Still waiting. The hype leading up to the P365 was pretty intense and the LGS sold a bunch of those. The linkage isnt, but the way the striker leg and sear face mate up, the two materials being MIM castings, the small camming action, etc. Great job, this threat needed some levity! Golly didnt Sig catch he!! Stinking Lawyers and quota cops. The claimed mode of failure was that the tab on the drop safety that interferes with the striker movement had been sheered off and stopped being a drop safety. Double check that the mag is fully seated and there is a round in the chamber. (the only place you can ship a firearm) Remove my fiber optic sites and replace with the factory sites. Both FCUs work with all of the other kits / calibers. I call Sig hoping to send it in for repairs, they told me to try different ammo. My trust for Sig stopped after they produced the beloved Sig556xi Russian. You can feel the point when it binds, or sticks, even when manually operating the action slowly May 2 . Shot about 200 rounds of a variety of ammo (factory and reloads) no problems noted at all. If the P320 was so great then why did special forces go to the Glock 19? Sometimes you dont get what you pay for but now SIG has bragging rights. That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. Viewing from the top down, there is a hole in the top of the slide with a roll-pin installed in the hole. And the idea some random comment section P320 hater thinks theyre smarter & more knowledgeable than the Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard and Marine Corp combined regarding military pistol selection is just freaking laughable! Pasted as rich text. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. ! while being accompanied by some form of obvious stupidity like putting an unholstered gun in a gym bag with other stuff. Ive putabout 2000 rounds through it no issue, but the other day I was at the range and had a case separation. But SIG Sauer said it has rectified the issue with upgrades, including one made for the U.S. military which court documents, filed as part of one of the lawsuits, show resulted in substantial changes to the weapons internal design. Let us look at the history of other consumer products. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. Maybe. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial users. Since 2017, Sig has faced at least 13 lawsuits contending a P320 owner was shot and injured in one case, fatally when the gun misfired. Have you tried a different slide and barrel. U.S. lawsuits BAM. But I hope Sig fights it until the bitterest of ends. Over pressure, and poor case support, just a thought. He would have been booted after the first time, but being a cop comes with some special privileges. Born date on box is 8-18-2016. Sent the old kit (as a complete pistol) off to Sig for warranty repair. He probably had a double until it was over. CBC News reached out to Sig Sauer and its Canadian distributor, M.D. I purchased a Sig P320C 9mm in November 16, i finally got to shoot it in Dec and now February. There are tens of millions of gun owners, far more than there are cops, and the VAST majority of those folks buy their guns and drop them a nightstand drawer or up on a closet shelf and leave it until theyre needed. The most common problems with the SIG P320 AXG Scorpion are FTF issues, ejection and extractor problems, slide rattle issues and RSA issues. Then when the gun still wouldnt operate right, field stripped it and cleared the debris, but didnt understand the gun enough to realize it was now super broken. As the round is stripped from the magazine it is pushed up the feed ramp and into the partially extracted round still hanging out the back of the barrel. Yaaay! In the most recent legal action, Deputy Vadnais is seeking $10 million in damages and to have SIG Sauer recall the pistol. This weekend I had a FTE that jammed up my gun pretty good. My 3 year old 320C started exhibiting fail to extract problems a while back. . there is no better. And people have a way of looking for ways to deflect blame for those discharges, especially when they stand to lose their job as a result. . Have you ever noticed that big trouble usually comes in groups of 3. Alma Cole was able to hook me up with some backup parts and the Sig shop did sent out replacements, although I had to pay for them. My friend's 320 rx pictures below, out of battery firing, barrel appears to be short chambered, not enough case supportsee pix below hate to tell you this but most lawnmowers with the handle bar stop get tied down. I brought a box of fiocchi and a box of blazer ammo. Over the top, hammy and with incredible choleric energy, but as he once said, when you trying to seriously sell a scene that has space ship with obvious carboard walls, christmas lights and a guy in a rubber gorilla suit with a plastic horn on its head, if you play it lowkey youre dead the audience is gonna focus on how cheesy it all is. Left 2 weeks ago and received and email this mourning that it's on its way back to me. New to the forum from the great state of Georgia! And as far as Special Forces go, SF going to Glock has been documented as a bean counters solution to save money. Colors: SATIN ROSE | Matte TiCN. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. You said you don't have the problem with any of your other kits. Were not the only ones who have noticed the lawsuits. I'm giving that a try. rpm8300 SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. Heres the version of the report that ran later that night, during ABCs Nightline program . Todd started as a news correspondent with NHPR in 2009. You simply may not PREFER one make to another, or may simply dislike another make, but were to the point in semi-auto pistol production history where amongst the big brands, the only real distinctions are preference. He is also calling on the gunmaker to issue a recall on this product, and pull this product from the market, until they make this gun safe.. Hes like the arrogant star QB on your favorite football teamyeah, you would never want to spend a weekend with him at the lake cabin, but your franchise would be little to nothing without him. I think I may know what happened. , 54 people all shooting themselves. You clanging a bell that went silent years ago. While it seems that I have a preference for battle ships, The Romulans had Warbirds. The fact the ammo didn't bother other guns is irrelevant, since every round is, essentially, unique. Wont last!. Send it back to Sig? The tendency is for people to say "I've shot thousands of this load, and nothing has ever happened before." Feed ramp was polished from use when it went out but looked freshly blued when it came back. The Government mandated it to be made more safe to use and was. a. At this point I would have to say that Taurus is a better handgun. Upload or insert images from URL. Some have suggested that this could have been aggravated by the lack of a trigger safety, as most other. Firing Pin Retaining Pin, Spiral -250. . The pistol is popular with commercial gun owners and law enforcement south of the border. A few Warbirds decloaking would make me very nervous if it wasnt sci-fi fantasy. Yes, its reliable, but no more so than most other major brands well known models. The SIG will be the shortest military contract for guns in history. I chalk it up to a piece of brass that was probably already significantly compromised. It was one of the first ones and was sent back as a voluntary upgrade. Its just dumb enough to sound like the plot to a damned Disney film. Yes. brakes, remember? Canadas highly-trained counterterrorism force, JTF-2, is the only military unit with the SIG P320 in its inventory right now. I'll up date this when I can, and if you have any ideas please let me know. TTAG talked to Bagnell, who told us that he wants it to be known that he is not anti-gun and doesnt want to see more gun control laws in this country. Later when he was driving he shifted his weight and this caused the trigger to be pushed back further and it went off and shot him and the bullet then also blew a big hole in the floor board of this truck. I have no idea. You need to deliberately thumb the Pythons hammer back to get that trigger pull, each and every time. Covid ruined that gravy train for him but hes still doing the conventions. The pictures on the internet were enough to scare the shit out of you especially his wound in the thigh. The P320 9mm compact was known to have issues with failure to extract. Yes, but that did not mean the machine would be able to go on being marketed like that. I was running 165 Xtreme RN plated with 2.7 of VV310. The second version emphasized the upgrade to fix the drop safety issue and notes that Harrison believes that problem has been fixed. My elderly aunt drove her Volvo into a parked car, and the yard behind it, and the house behind that, while she was pressing the brake as hard as she could. Strangely the car kept accelerating, almost as if she were flooring the gas pedal. Companies stay silent It that does not work, I will either send it back to Sig or ditch the gun and go back to Glock or Smith & Wesson for a striker fired handgun. Because its flat out bull**it. who sells them? No, it doesnt. So it never had a history of a potential valid claim for ambulance chasers to work off of. The most common problems with the SIG P320 X5 Legion are recoil spring issue, slide locking/FTE due to lack of lube, battery blowing out issues and outgassing issues. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Theyre just on a 30 year nap hoping what they did will carry them forever. The guide rod is cheap and breaks, it has rotten front sights! converted to the Glock denomination, but are now screaming that the P320 is Too new, not worked out! Here is a movie that he filmed 40 years ago and he was still raking it in. Post again when you buy a real gun that you can defend yourself with. Yes including 3 factory loads and 5 different hand loads. Fitting, gauging, and range testing. Thanks. In 1982 the G17 hit the market and in 1983 they gave 30,000 pistols to the Austrian military at cost. And N310 is yet faster burning powder, where you are guaranteed higher peak pressure for the same velocity with the same bullet at the same OAL, and 165gr is yet a heavier bullet, where you get greater pressure increases per tenth of a grain of powder, so less forgiving. I think in the end even if there is no mechanical defect (dont hold your breath) it will be found that the Sig is causing accidental discharges for the same reason the Glock does, because if you snag the trigger on the Sig model that does not have a manual safety (some do) the gun will accidentally fire. So if, say, a person was to accidentally get shot through no fault of their own and need to sue, which specific cartridge/appendage combo would yield the most favorable least pain/permanent-damage : highest-payout ratio? Well today was a great day for the wife as she had zero malfunctions with her gun! Occasional kabooms are a predictable outcome. They are plaintiffs versions of what they say happened. N310 with 165gr? (unless theyre SWAT or something). Both were sent back to Sig and fixed. Which in and of itself is user error / misuse. They function as commanded every time. The company has repeatedly denied the P320 is unsafe. It seems safe to assume that while SIG is coming up fast on the outside, GLOCK is still most likely the reigning champ in terms of the firearms most often carried by law enforcement and other government agencies. SIG brought us into their testing facility today and demonstrated that three upgraded P320s were all functional and fired properly. Fourth, no one takes Taurus seriously. A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 -- a pistol that the Army's new sidearm is based on . I can say we are aware of the statement released by SIG SAUER, said Maj. Amber Bineau. Oh, if you another thread reader asking Wheres the Sig/Glock bashing? No the devil went down to Georgia to learn how to play a fiddle. What exactly did Harrison mean by legal momentum? That isnt clear, but its easy to make an educated guess. They habitually use their customers as the product testers by selling what are essentially prototypes while quietly implementing rolling revisions. The lead plaintiff, Fernando Armendariz, an agent with U.S. Customs and Border Protection, alleges that his department-issued P320 suddenly and unexpectedly discharged while he was re-holstering it in April 2021, resulting in a gunshot wound to his thigh. It alleges that Walter Collette, Jr., a police officer with the Somerville (Mass.) In this version, Bridge City Officer Brittany Hilton tells her story of what she says happened when her P320 discharged as she was carrying it in her purse in what appears to be a SERPA holster (which has had its own problems, but thats another story). (Strange) Anyway I took it to the range last night for a test run. One thing that I haven't see you state yet, when you LAMR do you go to slide lock and drop a round in the chamber, drop the slide, and load a full mag? To put it simply, they are expensive cheaply made junk. Glock is being sued too, because once loaded and a round is chambered, it also has a much lighter trigger than a DA/SA. MGW carries a vast array of replacement slides, barrels, magazines, sights, grip modules, pins, springs and other small parts for this handgun. My load (135 gr RMR JFP over 3.8gr A#2) is fairly mild and does not swell the back end of the case like the pics above but they will grow about .002"-.004". . Also make sure you greased the rails and properly lubricated the pistol. The new guy sucks. P320C .45. A little variance in the powder drop combined with a lower volume case and you get a round on the high end of the pressure scale for the load. Sig can burn for all I care. Circumstances that explained those un-commanded discharges.. I have had some self induced issues with feel since trying to go full length guide rod, 15# 1911 spring and Apex trigger. That prompted Sig Sauer to issue what it called a voluntary upgrade of the weapon, which included hardware changes to the trigger and striker. He spent nearly a decade in the non-profit world, working with international development agencies and anti-poverty groups. I know off body carry is a recipe for disaster. Grow up, you aint all that! But Shatner? After many years of testing, we've developed a replacement part that . Includes: -Extractor-Extractor Pin-Extractor spring Where is that defect now? Then Weve got to go 9mm Nato. And hasnt been nothing but looking for the holy grail since. 3. Heres the version that ran Tuesday morning during the networks Good Morning America program . . This pistol had about 700 rounds through it at the time of the FTE, all factory Speer Lawman 147g TMJ and Federal HST 147g JHP. There is definitely less support for the case on that 320 barrel compared to that 938. By The lawsuit also includes two members of the Milwaukee Police Department, Adam Maritato and Robert Parks, who were involved in an alleged drop fire incident in July 2020. It was expensive. Shoot fast, shoot safe. But when you're running at the raggedy edge, when you're running well into or over +P -- as many people do with super fast powders and super heavy bullets, trying to chase down the holy grail of soft felt recoil -- when you're at that raggedy edge, it doesn't take a double-charge for a catastrophic failure. Make a gift to NHPR today for your chance to win a trip for 2 to Ireland! The Glock fails on both counts. It provides another example of how the gun free zone purportedly keeps people safe by not only keeping guns away, but by requiring more discharges nearby. More common is the incorrect reassembly, for those who have removed the plunger, spring or claw. Going to have to feed it some more ammo this weekend to see if the problem happens again. Not sure if the FTE is related to the feeding problems people see with certain ammo, but check out this link, it MAY be what you need to see. I seem to remember one failure some time ago. Big public relations disaster and Sig tries a second time to get the piece of shit to work and not go off when dropped. I dont own a P320. USA. My guess would be somehow you: 1. It was not a double charge, but it did blow out the extractor. The military has found that the pistol has a tendency to eject live rounds among other issues. SIG P320s were just the start and the P365 isnt far behind. I've lost a little faith in my EDC. Remember the stupidity of the far right is infinite and the blind greed of the gun makers prove they could not care less about human life and suffering. But then Im not a federal LE flunky who cant keep my booger hook off the bang switch, either. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. Maybe in South America a poor military did, but thatd be about it. Theyve also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. With the redesign, you would have to implement a LOT of force to move the trigger backwards. This gun had been voluntary upgraded. All of my kits run fantastic, never a hiccup. Thats just myopic brand lust on parade. Then either the gun somehow managed to magically clear both the broken tab and foreign body to continue to operate. The fact that it happened to you three times with the same ammo eliminates the gun as the variable, and makes it the ammo. If it fails, you're kind of screwed. Funny how that works. All chasing that pot of gold at the end of litigation.. Not that big of a stretch when considering the lawyers beating the bushs for clients to add to the lawsuits, and the fact many of them will lose their jobs if its proven to NOT be the gun, but instead negligence on their part. What I can say is that article reads like a hit piece on the individuals who may or may not of made mistakes with their firearms from someone who worships at the alter of sig. The new suit is the latest in a string of similar cases that alleges Sig Sauers popular P320 striker-fired pistol has a design flaw that has led to unintentional discharges of the weapon, often while still holstered. But I can't count the number of guys using n320 and 147s for minimal pf loads. The current allegations, then, are different, claiming that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. I had the same thing happen on a FS P320. No change. Quit blaming cops or the military, these guns have a serious problem. For the sake of comparison, the P365 has an overall length of 5.8-inches and height of 4.3inches, and the P365 XL has an overall length of 6.6-inches and a height of 4.8-inches. When Villani was asked for his opinion of SIG Sauer, he said, I carry SIGs, I own SIGs, I just dont own a 320nor would I ever. When Scott asked Villani what he found when he took a P320 apart, he said, I thought Wow, they need to do their homework, they need to fix this gun.. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. So even if, as the ambulance chaser claims, the striker leg could vibrate off of the sear face, it could not discharge unless the drop safety was also disengaged because the drop safety prevents movement of the striker sufficient to make the firing pin protrude from the breech face. SIG Sauer, a German weapons maker with its U.S. headquarters in Newington, N.H., issued a statement Friday in response to a CBC News report earlier this week that revealed the Nov. 5, 2020, incident and the fact the weapon, the SIG P320, had been withdrawn from service while the military conducts an investigation. It nicely describes what has to happen in a striker-fired P320 for an un-commanded discharge to happen as the plaintiffs have claimed. The incidents occur outside the forbidden zone, as we disarm before we enter so we stay in assiduous compliance with their nonsensical requirement. A few weeks ago, my P320Compact (serial number 58B00xxxx) failed to extract a shell. I still own them all. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Google Keith Slatowski, is he lying also? Got my P320 in March 2015 so it was one of the earlier ones. May 25, 2016 in Sig. Once springs loosened up a bit, fill it to the rim. The networks report didnt mention lawsuits filed by LEOs (or anyone else) against other gun makers claiming similar alleged design defects. If you had a problem while shooting reloads and they still offered warranty service (regardless of whether you had to send it in), they must have changed their policy. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. The nose of the extractor does appear to be peened slightly, but this may be normal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, Simply put, the P320 is not safe and the lawsuits arent frivolous. When a consumer product is likely to be operated in such a way that it causes accidents because it is way too easy to make a serious mistake because of human error when operating it the manufactures are told that the machine must be made safer. I'm not sure how long it is really going to take. If they recruit smart cops, they wont have cops who will act against their political opponents outside of the constitution. how do I get one for my P320? One of the officers a few years ago was carrying his P320 in a P226 holster that he took a Dremel to make the P320 fit. I suggest you contact Sig Customer Service, let them know you have an early P320 Compact and ask for replacement Extractor, Extractor Pin, and Extractor Spring due to the FTE issues you are encountering. I have a 2015 born sc that has almost 2k rounds thru it & not one fte has occurred. Much has been made of Nimoys Spock being the most popular character in TOS, but Id argue that without Shatners over-the-top swagger and brash manner, the balance would be lost. Every time to be made more safe to use and was sent back as a complete pistol off! ; sig p320 extractor issues kind of soured me ( 603 ) 610-3000 Option 1, Monday. 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