The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. :>released around the same time, The Ninth Gate. What a joke to call them "philosophers." Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the The big question is how did the mask get there, and who left it? >>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. I found them both disappointing. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? And Milich was expecting him. Orgy? People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would > she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it?>> Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very. > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? >What else could he call it? WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.' Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? Web .
1925 . No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. >>What else could he call it? All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I know." In contrast, why does the masked woman seeminglyalready know much more than they do? Those critics of EWS must have been delerious. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. WebSleep Mask for Women, Eye Mask for Sleeping Blindfold Block Out Light and Relieves Dry Eyes with Extra Gel Beads Pad,Super Smooth and Flower Patterns 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. What a joke to call them "philosophers." And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? You can identify Pollacks eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups. But he can't know for sure (because she wasmasked at Somerton). I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. Put on some headphones and listen. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. ", "Victor what can I say. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, > etc. Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. Milich even tried to talk Bill into renting a more colorful costume. So check out Mandy's Wink on the slab---it's very fast, but it is there:), Yeah but he used the same actor for different roles in Dr Strangeloveand in some scenes of Eyes Wide Shut he has Cruise on a treadmillagainst a blue screen using real photography of NYC behind him, thenin the next scene Cruise is filmed against a set in england. The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. Please either stop > or> shape up. Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curransuffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make aconnection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafethat set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier servedas Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare clear and she has a very distinctive voice. ", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXuHaaz5iU, > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. And of course how did the mask get on his pillow? andpleading with her to take off her mask? He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). As for Kelpzoid's rants on the topic - isn't there a RAW Illuminatusng out there somewhere? WebSynopsis. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? I enjoy the mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the film again and again. The official cause of death was from a heart attack. > Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. Think of that journey as Dr. Bill's "living nightmare" or "daydream," which began after he left his wife. How doesshe know this? As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? --Napoleon. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. It was in the trailer or a TV spot. I mean hewas filmed only in england, but the photography behind him in thatglove clapping shot is projected or whatever and so that means that hedidn't care that mucha bout switching things around like actresses andstuff, it's about masks anyway the movie is. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing.>, > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ziegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectively> interpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlier> events of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeply> suspect account? WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! Whereas atSomerton, Ziegler and the others only first become suspicious of Billas an interloper because of how he arrived there (in a taxi ratherthan a limousine). Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any > way. He may literally have to go underground, or to the moon, etc. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. He then breaks down crying and confesses to Alice his misadventures of the past few days. Orgy? The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. He's eventually discovered and forced to remove his mask but is saved from a bleak fate by another masked woman who tried to warn him to leave earlier. So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do you want me to say..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. (1) As more people opt for lasik surgery, he will not be able to hide behind those specs. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! It was a party nevertheless. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to > all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. Same voice. "Kelpzoidzl" wrote in message news:47881976$0$11015$4c36@roadrunner.com "Kelpzoidzl" wrote in message. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing > this," Mandy says, "Ya." 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